[quote quote=1314441]No one is saying no to ebikes on RAGBRAI. And those that use to ride self powered and now use ebikes are no doubt skilled enough to know safety and etiquette. But there are others who can ride much faster without any previous experience at it on ebikes.[/quote]

When you first start this thread you characterized all e-bikers as those who simply purchased their speed and never trained up. Now there seems to be a distinction between those who previously rode self powered and now ride an e-bike

Good to see you are coming around. Next step is to disguise yourself and secretly visit your local Trek e-bike dealer.