Forum Word Wrap

Please have your web site team address the word wrap issue. It is incredibly distracting to try to read a post or blog entry with the current amateurish word wrap technique or lack of same.

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Sam Boyer, July 27, 2017 at 7:25 pm

lol 1st word problems…. Ride on!

I personally see no issue.

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Ken, July 27, 2017 at 7:34 pm

Are you saying you don’t see it or just that it does not bother you?

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peg, July 27, 2017 at 10:04 pm

Insult the people giving you a free service – you may want to take a course in people skills. Also, you may want to provide a little more detail to your complaint. What you did is like bringing your car to the mechanic and telling him, ‘Hey, there’s something wrong with my car. Fix it!’ Methinks the amateur is you.

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Ken, July 27, 2017 at 10:25 pm

Hi Peg,

OK, a little more detail. When a sentence exceeds the space allowed for a line, every other system I know of has a process to decide where to break the sentence and start a new line. These systems usually do not break the sentence in the middle of a word. In your post for example, your third sentence is rather long thus requiring two breaks (at least that is what appears on my screen). Both of those breaks happen in the middle of a word (br inging) and (ca r). I find that distracting and annoying, especially since all other systems I come in contact with handle this problem without breaking words.

As to people skills, I did say please 🙂 and I do allow for the possibility that I am the only one seeing the problem. BTW, the last two RAGBRAI website versions (I have been reading them several times a day for almost 10 years) did not exhibit this behavior so I thought it worthwhile to bring it to their attention.

As a final note, I am a software development professional with over 30 years experience in writing systems AND dealing with customers. You would be hard pressed to find any of my clients who object to my people skills. Anyway, thanks for reading and responding.

Ken

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Sam Boyer, July 28, 2017 at 6:39 am

I am not sure what you are talking about, I don’t see any issue. But calling them amateurish is probably what they were getting at. Here is a screen shot of what I see… Looks fine for me. Screenshots are best for troubleshooting problems.

I do this too for a living, I am just a rider like you and I am not connected to Ragbrai professionally, I am sure you know when developing a website there’s always different ways each browser/computer combo renders the HTML on each computer and its very hard for a developer to fix something that can’t replicate. Also knowing what environment you are running is helpful.

Here is a screenshot of your message on my computer (Win 10 Pro 64 bit, Chrome). Mine is doing word wrap as intended and there is no break programmed in as you describe. Looked at the source code and I don’t see any hard coded <BR>’s..

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Ken, July 28, 2017 at 6:50 am

Hi Sam,

OK perhaps amateurish was a little harsh. If others are not seeing this (I know at least one other poster mentioned it a few weeks ago) it must have something to do with the browser and/or operating system. I use WIN 10 and Firefox, both of which are updated to the latest version. I will try a couple of other browsers but I would have expected the developers to test on at least the most popular ones which would include Firefox.

Thanks for the response.

Update. I just tried Microsoft Edge with the same result as FireFox.

This reply was modified 3 years, 2 months ago by Ken. Reason: Updated Info

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Ken, July 28, 2017 at 8:52 am

Another update. Installed CHROME and tried it. Problem not there. So it is evidently related to the browser. So far, Foxfire and Edge exhibit the problem, Chrome is OK.

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Adam Larsen, July 30, 2017 at 7:13 pm

Someone who waves around his “over 30 years experience in writing systems” and then calls it Foxfire is not to be taken seriously.

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Ken, July 31, 2017 at 12:31 am

Hi Adam,

Sorry for the mistype. I meant FireFox. Foxfire is another application I use and my fingers and brain were not in sync. Nice catch. Thanks.

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KenH, July 31, 2017 at 7:32 am

There was nothing wrong at all with the original post. The tone was appropriate and word wrap is the only detail one should need to address the issue. I have been seeing this issue for weeks, ever since they updated the look and feel, on Chrome as well as other browsers. Other users reported it too. It affected both forum posts as well as the Register’s own postings on other pages. It is very odd to see this issue in this day and age and that does make the web design crew the Register used for this seem amateurish. But it seems to be fixed now.

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Ken, July 31, 2017 at 12:25 pm

Thanks Ken. I was beginning to feel that in my old age I had lost touch with reality.

Anyway, on my FireFox browser, the problem still exists with your post.

Ken

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Sunflower, July 31, 2017 at 3:34 pm

I use the 64bit Waterfox and see the issue.

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Ken, September 6, 2017 at 6:41 am

At the risk of being chastised even more, since RAGBRAI 2017 is now history,I was wondering if there are any plans to look into this word wrap issue?

For the record, I am viewing the website with a PC, WIN10, FireFox browser. The word wrap issue is present in the Forums and on the blog. I have also tried Microsoft Edge and Google Chrome and experience the same issue.

Since some have asked, here is the issue… When a sentence is too long to fit in the allotted space, the sentence is often broken in the middle of a word.

Thanks, Ken

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Luv 2 Ski, September 6, 2017 at 10:59 am

I think this problem was mentioned before and for me the problem stills exists. I agree with Ken and in todays day and age this is an issue that would seem to be an easy fix. Like Ken H I did not take Ken’s original post as insulting, just pointing out a problem that has been around for some time. It is annoying to me as well. If my teenage boys handed in an assignment at school that had this word wrap problem their grade would suffer regardless of the class subject. I wonder if anyone in the Registers computer department is aware of the issue?

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KenH, September 7, 2017 at 7:35 am

I don’t know how closely they monitor this forum. They do occasionally respond here but that may be only in cases where someone has pointed them to a thread or post via the RAGBRAI info email address. I guess that is the logical next step, I delegate the task to my namesake: send an email about this to @ragbrai.com">info@ragbrai.com

Well, I thought it had been fixed because it disappeared on my work computer and phone but since then I have noticed that it is still there on my home computer. It is probably some quirk with some versions of some browsers and operating systems. My guess is that the web designers are using versions that do not exhibit the problem.

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