Lost: Crash Details

Help Wanted!

Did anyone notice a crash on Friday, July 27 on the road between Springville and Viola?

I believe it occurred at the bottom of a hill, almost exactly half-way between these two little towns and the ambulance was on the scene in just a matter of minutes. In fact, the ambulance was at the top of the same hill and received notice of the accident from an alert (and very caring) RAGBRAI rider who circled back before the ambulance had even received the 911 call.

Thankfully, the fallen rider also received immediate aid and comfort from a medical professional (M.D.)…she was a fellow RAGBRAIr, possibly from Colorado, who stopped to lend a hand.

The crash occurred at the 30.1 mile mark of this 40 mile day, probably sometime in the late morning.

One gentleman was thrown from his bike and left in the ambulance for St. Luke’s hospital in Cedar Rapids. He was wearing a white helmet, Pearl-Izumi bike shorts, a RAGBRAI XL 40th Jersey, sunglasses, and black compression stockings.

We would appreciate any information as to what actually happened, but believe a rider or riders may have either collided and gone down in front of him or possibly re-entered the right lane suddenly and unannounced.

The rider is fine, but would like very much to know what actually set this accident into motion so as to avoid its happening ever again.

Thank you!

Best…and safe rides!
Will
Miami Beach

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BillDana, August 7, 2012 at 12:11 pm

Last day, a guy riding right in front of me swerves right then left, then his bike hits the ground. With people on both sides all I could do is hit the brakes. As luck would have it, our front wheel got around him and his bike. Had our front wheel run into him, we would have all been down. The unfortunate rider was more embarrassed than hurt. I’m not sure why he fell, and I’m not sure he knows either. I was looking right at him when this all started and I still don’t have a clue.

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straycat, August 7, 2012 at 2:14 pm

BD brings up a good point. I recall the place of this accident, I was not far behind it since the ambulance passed me on the way to it. I saw a woman last year get into a gap in the pavement and subsequently went flying across the road and crashed on the shoulder.

There were not any gaps here, but I can’t remember for sure if there were tar strips or something else in the road that might have caused this fall. I do remember the bike traffic was in the “moderate” range, ie, reasonably spread out on the flats, but kind of bunched on uphills.

I can tell you that there was an above average of “lost” stuff on this section of road. I saw at least 2 bike computers, a front wheel sensing unit, and several other items that if one had run over them, might cause an unsuspecting jolt.

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zinzen1, August 7, 2012 at 3:20 pm

BillDana & straycat –

Thanks folks, I am not sure if you are responding to me, however, in the event you are, the accident I have been asking about was on Friday (next to the last day / 40 mile ride), July 27, sometime between 10:40-11:00 a.m. at 1780 Springville Road, in Springville (RAGBRAI Route).

The danger of fallen objects can not be emphasized enough, especially when riding in groups and on unfamiliar routings.

Will

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Tony, August 7, 2012 at 7:05 pm

May I suggest dropping the “investigation”. All you will do is drive yourself nuts. You do sound like your fishing for witness too. Even the most skilled cyclist can not react to all road conditions in time. Especially when riding in a large group with varying skill level cyclist all around you. Crap happens. All it takes is a tire tap, handlebar bump, road crack, chuck hole, and your down. May I also suggest to riders that you need to adjust speed and distance from nearby riders. Maintain a bubble of safety so to speak. Then when the road is clear. You can cut loose. To ride defensively in a group. You need to be alert and totally aware of your surroundings. Unfortunately one distraction can lead to you being scrapped off the pavement. Again I would just let it be. Lesson learned and count your blessings he wasn’t hurt worst.

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Anonymous, August 7, 2012 at 8:23 pm

The story sounds TOO touching and heartwarming..You SAY you are no lawyer but lawyers can be notorious liars (and why they gravitate towards politics) and generally occupationally poll below used car salesman. The fickled finger of fate touches everyone on Ragbrai from time to time but your posts point to finding fault…and liability
.
Then again, maybe some of us on this thread have turn skeptical in our old age..

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Unavailable, August 7, 2012 at 8:57 pm

Defecation sometimes occurs

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zinzen1, August 7, 2012 at 11:37 pm

Thank you for your concern, Tony.

I think were this something I had not been asked to pursue, I would have taken one shot at it and moved on. But that is not the case…though at this point I have not started any new strings…and am not sure that I will. I suppose that knowing my friend the way I do…in particular his very generous spirit, I just do not have the heart to tell him to “drop the investigation,” not just yet, anyway.

Nor is there the slightest chance that by pondering this unfortunate event or making inquiry that I will “drive myself nuts.”

It truly is not an investigation, anyway, but rather an inquiry among fellow riders and friends…like you. This is not a cold, objective police report, but rather the warm and subjective search for the truth that family and friends need to allow them to heal.

So I am sure you will understand why I cannot simply “let it be,” as you might. If, for example, we were talking about your daughter or mother, would you ‘let it be’ and move on so quickly, so easily? I might ask: How could you?
And especially how could you if they, the injured party, was still looking for the truth?

With the full assurance that I am not an attorney “fishing for a witness,” I have to apologize if you find my persistence or loyalty to a dear friend questionable or foolhardy. No, I am 100% sincere.

As for your ‘lessons’ on safe or defensive riding, you are truly preaching to the choir in this instance. My friend wrote the book on these safety precautions many years ago.

The ironic truth here is that in spite of your candid advice…”Lesson learned and count your blessings he wasn’t hurt worst”…no lesson has yet been learned, nor can it be until someone, however anonymously, explains what they saw on the road last Friday at c. 10:45 a.m.

Again, thank you for your obvious caring and concern.

Best…and safe rides!

Will

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zinzen1, August 7, 2012 at 11:47 pm

Horseman…

Thank you for injecting a bit of wit…

¡ǝɯ oʇ ᴚǝʎʍɐן ɐ ǝᴚɐ noʎ ǝʞıן spunos ןןıʇs ʇı puɐ sʇsod ᴚnoʎ pɐǝᴚpuɐ pɐǝɥ ʎɯ uo pooʇs I

Cute! I wrote a “mirror reading” program when I was an undergraduate. I think it is now a ¢.99 iPhone app.

NB: !noisseforp lagel eht fo rebmem a neeb reve I evah ron won ton ma I

Best…and safe rides!

Will

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Unavailable, August 8, 2012 at 12:33 am

Good luck on your quest. Unfortunately I will never know how it ends as this will be the last time that I log on. I have followed this but as interesting as it is, it has become a bore. Maybe next year I can pick up this thread again but for now its just tedious and a waste of time. Laters

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Fox Mulder, August 8, 2012 at 3:37 am

All lies lead to the truth…

http://www.meetup.com/chicagoland-bicycling/messages/boards/thread/13449761

Bill Posted Jul 9, 2011 1:10 PM
Zinzen
Chicago, IL
Post #: 6
“I’ve fallen and I can get up!”

Hello, All!

This is a follow-up request for guidance and input concerning a separated shoulder injury I sustained when I was side-swiped and driven off the Fox River Trail by another cyclist last Wednesday, June 29.

————————————

Does anyone know anything about this very common (and potentially serious) biker’s injury, e.g., good orthopedic surgeons or physical therapists; successful treatments, e,g., surgery; prognosis and recovery, etc.?

I would like to hear from fellow-riders…at length and in as much detail as you can muster…as soon as you can spare the time.

Mine is a “Type 3” (acute) separation of the AC joint and from what I can gather, surgery is 50:50 proposition.

Thanks for your help!

Best,

ZinZen
Related Issues: Doctors/Specialists, Treatments, Legal/Advocacy, Fox River Trail, Prognosis, etc.

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Jboz, August 8, 2012 at 7:26 am

Interesting…

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Fox Mulder, August 8, 2012 at 8:29 am

zinzen1: Help Wanted!Did anyone notice a crash on Friday, July 27 on the road between Springville and Viola?I believe it occurred at the bottom of a hill, almost exactly half-way between these two little towns and the ambulance was on the scene in just a matter of minutes. In fact, the ambulance was at the top of the same hill and received notice of the accident from an alert (and very caring) RAGBRAI rider who circled back before the ambulance had even received the 911 call.Thankfully, the fallen rider also received immediate aid and comfort from a medical professional (M.D.)…she was a fellow RAGBRAIr, possibly from Colorado, who stopped to lend a hand.The crash occurred at the 30.1 mile mark of this 40 mile day, probably sometime in the late morning.One gentleman was thrown from his bike and left in the ambulance for St. Luke’s hospital in Cedar Rapids. He was wearing a white helmet, Pearl-Izumi bike shorts, a RAGBRAI XL 40th Jersey, sunglasses, and black compression stockings.We would appreciate any information as to what actually happened, but believe a rider or riders may have either collided and gone down in front of him or possibly re-entered the right lane suddenly and unannounced.The rider is fine, but would like very much to know what actually set this accident into motion so as to avoid its happening ever again.Thank you!Best…and safe rides!WillMiami Beach

Above is the post that begins this thread. Below is a post that I found in a Ragbrai thread about lottery results. As you can see this appears to be the same individual that posted in the CBG forum about an A/C shoulder injury (the same injury that his “friend” has). In the Ragbrai “Lottery” thread he signs it as being from Chicago but it this “Crash Details” thread he signs it as being from Miami Beach.I include the post that I found below. I will wait until “Will” has a chance to respond before I share anything more..

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zinzen1
Dear Madison5302,

Many thanks for the excellent (and very speedy) advice.

And…

Congratulations! You have been selected for the ride. Your
wristband number is listed below. Please use this number on
any correspondence with RAGBRAI. See you in July!

Kindness is the way to a better world and I’ll be sure to pass your’s forward.

See Y O U in July!

Best,
ZinZen
Chicago

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Sandaltan ., August 8, 2012 at 9:37 am

Thanks for your efforts Foxy.

RIDE RIGHT

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hnschipper, August 8, 2012 at 12:08 pm

zinzen1: The rider is o.k., meaning he will surely survive and ride again, however, besides the rapidly healing ‘road rash’, several ribs were cracked and he suffered an AC separation or dislocation…which is, from what I understand, an horrific, painful and debilitating injury that cannot be addressed effectively without major surgery, followed by many months of PT and a good deal of discomfort along the way. When I Googled this injury, which has many different levels of severity, I came to better understand his need to know what happened last Friday.

Wow! Amazing your friend has the exact same injury you had! Did you forget what it was like since you had to Google the injury?

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Fox Mulder, August 8, 2012 at 3:31 pm

I see that zinzen1 has logged onto his account but has failed to comment. I will take this as an act of surrender.

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