heres an idea, ass bicycle education to elementry school PE courses. Also add a section in drivers ed that reviews the rules if the road for all users including the fact bicycles have a right to use the roadway just as much as the driver of a car does.
 So where does New Jersey assemblywoman Cleopatra Tucker propose that money collected go? into the general fund, education, or bicycle facilities (bus racks, trails, lockers, etc.)?

Next they will make us carry liability insurance so that the cars that hit us can be repaired on our dime.

the evil rich cyclists should have to pay …those that are riding carbon fiber or make over 250,000 a year..If not enough revenue is raised, all those riding a Schwinn would be next..

steven z said: the evil rich cyclists should have to pay …those that are riding carbon fiber or make over 250,000 a year..If not enough revenue is raised, all those riding a Schwinn would be next..

Heck, the junk bikes should pay more because they weigh more and cause more damage to the roads.  LOL.

steven z said: …. No riding on the sidewalk….

Hmmmm, seems like motorist are always telling me that is where I am supposed to ride.

I’m so confused.

It seems 99.99 percent of the people reacting to this proposal think it is a combination of stupid, an outrage and insane. You’d have to list the bike’s make, model, year, color, weight, date of purchase, how much state tax you paid on it and other junk. Doubt it will even get to a committee. But we have to stay alert to this kind of lunacy introduced by people who are anti-bike and know nothing about them.

steven z said: PHILADELPHIA (CBS) – If a proposed bill becomes law in New Jersey, bicyclists will have to pay to register bikes or face a fine.

Bill hastily withdrawn due to outcry from residents and sane legislators.  The sky is not falling.  Nothing to see here, move along…

Y’know, if for $10.00 annually I could have a plate on my bicycle saying that I was in fact registered and therefore permitted to use the roads, it might not necessarily be a bad thing.  How many times have you heard ignorant people gripe and bítch because they had to have a license plate on their car/truck, but cyclists didn’t?  It would cut that particular argument off right at the ankles.

Based on the cost of registering a vehicle in Wisconsin, ten dollars sounds a little excessive, though.  Basic vehicle registration for a passenger car or light truck is $75.00 per year.  Mopeds and motorcycles pay $23.00 for TWO years.  Ten dollars annually — in Wisconsin, anyway — is basically the same rate as motorcycles, and it’s a lead-pipe cinch that we wouldn’t get the same rights/privileges as a Harley.

Maybe we’d need a niche registration of our own?  There already are a bunch of them, ranging from Ex-POW to Medal of Honor winners to Collectors to Antique to Low-Speed Vehicle.  And, at least in Wisconsin, there’s a “special-design vehicle” plate for $5.00 — I wonder if my recumbent would count?

-“BB”-

On three different military bases we had to register our bikes. They said it was for tracking in case of theft; got frame stickers, had to wear helmets & hi-vis vest during times of impared visibility, couldn’t ride on the sidewalks & had to obey all traffic signs.

I had forgotten all about that … the motorcycists were even more put out then we were.

All money given to government offices is p.issed away.  They cannot reduce spending cuz they are spineless.   The only way to reduce  govt spending is to deny them money.

If you can figure out a way to not pay taxes, you are a patriot. 

Well, you know you are talking about Jersey here.  Heck they charge you a fee to get on their beaches!  Don’t know of any other state that does that.  And they do not allow you to pump your own gas.  Seems they have some sort of gas pump attendants union that has successfully lobbied for a law that prohibits this, so they have jobs.  Not that I am anti-Jersey.  My wife is from South Jersey and there is some fine cycling in that part of the state.

BB, $10 for a 2 year plate. Did you see Letterman’s take on it last night?  said it was because eldery complained about almost being hit, if they put plates on the bikes with the letters big enough for them to read… then he had a video, guy on a bike with about a 6 foot wide plate on the back knocking some guy down with it.

jwsknk said: BB, $10 for a 2 year plate. Did you see Letterman’s take on it last night?  said it was because eldery complained about almost being hit, if they put plates on the bikes with the letters big enough for them to read… then he had a video, guy on a bike with about a 6 foot wide plate on the back knocking some guy down with it.

Hilarious – thanks for the pointer.  Here it is if you missed it.  Start at about 3:20 into the clip.

Papa T sez: All money given to government offices is p.issed away.  They cannot reduce spending cuz they are spineless.   The only way to reduce  govt spending is to deny them money. If you can figure out a way to not pay taxes, you are a patriot. 

pHIlo sez: the only way I could figure out was to quit my job & live in poverty.  Unfortunately, I moved back to Iowa, so will more than likely have to pay state taxes now!

pHIlo said:

Papa T sez: All money given to government offices is p.issed away.  They cannot reduce spending cuz they are spineless.   The only way to reduce  govt spending is to deny them money. If you can figure out a way to not pay taxes, you are a patriot. 

pHIlo sez: the only way I could figure out was to quit my job & live in poverty.  Unfortunately, I moved back to Iowa, so will more than likely have to pay state taxes now!

Another side to this position: Every foot of Iowa’s fine roads you’ll be biking on this summer on RAGBRAI is paid for through some form of taxation…county taxes for county roads and state taxes for state highways, etc,.  And, consider the absolute chaos if there were no roads, no law enforcement, no “other” numerous public services that we take for granted.  We would soon turn into a Dark Ages mentality/behavior/environment.  What we need to do is cut out the hypocracy of government (such as wasted money for pork barrel spending, much better oversight of spending, and proven results of spending, etc., and then our taxation would be bearable and understandable), and I feel we need to be good neighbors with those of different beliefs, languages, etc., at all levels of society here and abroad.  Utopian in scope? Yes.  All of our politicians should have to live within and pay for the same services/conditions that we, the people, must endure and/or enjoy…(i.e. retirement funding, health insurance costs, social security limitations, etc.)  Enough of this rant!!! This is my thinkin’, anyway.