Missing the point. Its not cool to slam or mock people on a public forum at all much less someone who has helped improve RAGBRAI for many years. Who cares if he was paid, he worked hard on it. He deserves our respect for all he’s done. I can understand how putting on a competing ride seems like bad form but that doesn’t excuse a lot of adolescent…[Read more]
I’ve looked at those Wisconsin rides also. One of them, SAAGBRAW, was originally sponsored by the Milwaukee Sentinel newspaper. In its heyday they had 3 week long routes all converging on the ending celebration in a western suburb of Milwaukee with a limit of 1,000 riders for all 2 routes. I did the south route from La Crosse in 1981. The GABRAAWR…[Read more]
So true BB. But I don’t think it was the fact it was a week long loop ride. The other example is in Colorado’s “Ride the Rockies” sponsored by the Denver Post newpaper and “The Bicycle Tour of Colorado” which was a week long loop ride put on by an organization led by 1 guy. RTR typically does not start and end in the same place (does once in a…[Read more]
Instead of a north, central, south route the loop option would allow a east, central and west loop route. Think about how great that east option could be, probably about 3 days along the river. And the same for the west option. So we’d hit hilly areas and flat areas during the week too. All the start/end towns could be a reasonable distance from…[Read more]
Instead of head to head, how about a friendly split? TJ stays away from RAGBRAI week and gets the 3 RAGBRAI training rides and develops a new week long ride in August. A great option would be a week long loop ride, starting and ending in the same town. Makes logistics for riders easy and can focus on different quadrants of Iowa. It can even dip…[Read more]
1 ride means we don’t have to split resources between 2 rides. Like the charters. Bubba’s committed to IR and PBV committed to RAGBRAI. So if you’re a fan of both Bubba’s & RAGBRAI or both PBV & IR, you’re just out of luck. And there lots of other vendors that will have to choose. Then we get into your RAGBRAI friends you see only during…[Read more]
SkiB-Minneapolis: 2 rides is the opposite of what’s in the rider’s best interests. The above idea you forwarded may be a bit of an over-reaction. I just don’t see the DMR giving up some thing they really built over the last 48 years. RAGBRAI was 30+ years old and already well developed when TJ became director. The DMR would likely go the lawsuit…[Read more]
Kenh makes some great points. And let’s talk abut the 3rd side. Not the DMR, not TJ but the riders. Is it in our best interest to split this ride into 2 camps. Think of all the various vendors that now have to choose. So each ride I;d assume will have fewer choices and less support overall for riders. Our best interest would be served by a…[Read more]
Agree reedkennethia/R-Daryl Daryl. He did come across as very speculative on all the things that “might” go wrong because of not being able to say that RAGBRAI is a separate deal from the DMR. In as much a sports team owner is a separate deal from the team, reality is one belongs to the other. Just like so many of us work for corporations we…[Read more]
The State Patrol announced they will support RAGBRAI as usual. And that no one from TJ’s Ride has talked to them yet. They did not say if they have the capacity to support both or they will allow a 2nd ride to go the exact same week.
As far as choosing sides there are more then just the DMR and the TJ side. How about the side called “the…[Read more]
ESchiers, I suggest you listen to that TJ interview again. He did not say the DMR wanted to fire half the staff. He speculated the DMR might want half the staff laid off if they only got half the number of registrations because of the King issue. And getting only half the registrants itself was highly speculative. And it was TJ who thought he had…[Read more]
-SP: Hello, State Patrol
-DR: Hi, I’m from RAGBRAI and we’d like to have your permission and assistance on these days
-SP: TJ called and we already gave him that.
-DR: That was for a different ride, we’re asking on behalf of RAGBRAI.
-SP: What! We thought TJ was asking for RAGBRAI.
Taking sides is not productive. Instead of advocating for or against one side or the other, let’s advocate what is best for the riders. Which is 1 ride. No splitting resources that can only be a negative for both.
Let’s email the Register for some reconciliation meetings and have 1 ride.